Gripping, thought-provoking and deeply rewarding, 12 Rules for Life offers an antidote to the chaos in our lives: eternal truths applied to our modern problems. I dispute that communism and fascism are so different in their moral character to imperialism (which produced the Atlantic slave trade, and the horrors of the Belgian Congo’ for example, or a myriad of other terrible choices on behalf of humanity which were not able to spread so far due to the lack of an industrial global society. Press J to jump to the feed. This forum is dedicated to the work associated with Dr. Jordan Peterson: a public intellectual, clinical psychologist, and professor of psychology at the University of Toronto. But I’ve started, so I’ll finish. A modern alternative to SparkNotes and CliffsNotes, SuperSummary offers high-quality study guides that feature detailed chapter summaries and analysis of major themes, characters, quotes, and essay topics. I mean, I don’t believe in the loving mother goddess ancient Wicca theory. This is partly a biological compromise with head size - too big of a head wouldn’t fit through a woman’s birth canal. More Jordan Peterson. Yes I agree. Change ), Jordan Peterson – 12 Rules for Life. Inspired by depictions of the psychiatric hospital estate in modern urban fantasy and popular fiction. • Oh god. • This is the chapter of Goth Catholicism. It is a self-help book, and at its core are two key concepts. It obsessed me. • I bet half of Peterson’s readers skim read this chapter, you know. Nor that the decline in religion (which is another debate) is the root cause. Peterson might. The second part talking about accepting the status quo is another misstep. • Jungian archetypes – we all get to pick ours and make our own hierarchy of values. He hates moral relativism. Honestly, I found this chapter very rambly. JBP applies the religion lense again, but sometimes it starts to feel like it is his only tool in the box. Eric Harris – philosopher. ( Log Out /  • Of course he realized socialism was wrong by reading George Orwell. αναζητούμε για σένα εξειδικευμένους τίτλους βιβλίων,μουσικής & ταινιών! It’s pretty brutal and unforgiving. One of them can be best described by the saying: "Give a man a fish, and you feed him for a day. But I’m going to try and step away from a long tangent on my opinions on the existence of laziness, and we’ll just stay with ‘Jordan Peterson definitely thinks work = morality’. Also about making the world better. I swear to god, I’m sure this man flagellates. 12 Rules for Life Summary. Nihilists cannot undermine it with skepticism. • Now we’re onto why Jesus didn’t go down the Cain route of murder. Martha complained to Jesus that Mary wasn't helping and He answered "one thing is needful [meaningful]: and Mary hath chosen that good part". Life is long. Firstly, that you should take personal responsibility for your life and the life of those in your charge (your children). • Quote – ‘why not simply take everything you can get, whenever the opportunity arises?…our ancestors worked out very sophisticated answers to such questions’. • Quote – ‘I was…tormented by the fact of the Cold War. Jordan Peterson's work as a clinical psychologist has reshaped the modern understanding of personality, and now he has become one of the world's most popular public thinkers, with his lectures on topics ranging from the Bible to romantic relationships drawing tens of millions of viewers. • Life is suffering. It made me love the guy even more. • I definitely don’t think Christianity separates church from state as a matter of doctrine. We will dedicate one chapter each week for in depth discussion. I’m reminded of the fact that in its early days, there were those who thought of Christianity as a creepy death cult. • He’s very ‘wisdom of the ancients’ isn’t he? There's a lot Christians can learn from this chapter. But finding a meaning to life is a very philosophical question and not really something that can be found through psychology alone. If you grant that the torment does have a purpose, then it becomes a more nuanced conversation, and morality has use here. I would have wished for more examples from clinical practice. Thanks for exploring this SuperSummary Plot Summary of “12 Rules for Life” by Jordan B. Peterson. Also understanding Marx's criticism of religion as being the opium of the people (a numbing force similar to the effects of opium). Seventeen year old Sally feels SO SMART. What is a decent/good course of action when that which is meaningful in my life (or that which I perceive to be, at least), is both moral and immoral, depending on how you spin it? • Also flagellating. If the worst sin is the torment of others, merely for the sake of the suffering produced—then the good is whatever is diametrically opposed to that. • Some slightly unsettling rambling about sin. Morally sound in my opinion, but this course of action will impact only a handful of people. - ISBN: 9780241351642 She may slowly smoke a menthol cigarette as she reads this. Does expedient means that it has no morals? He doesn’t need the rest of your nonsense. απόκτησε extra εγγύηση εώς και 5 χρόνια για την συσκευή σου. But I have concerns. It is ironic that he is a lot more succinct while speaking in public. I’m never sure I trust Benjamin Franklin. I sort of buy into this actually. It's always possible to go back. I won’t judge. Wouldn't those that torment others just to torment be engaging in a pretty poor strategy and inefficient allocation of resources? Is he actually fighting the livejournal philosophers of 2002? 12 Rules for Life by Jordan Peterson. • I think Jordan Peterson might flagellate regularly. Based on my real life time in the Maudsley Hospital. All Peterson heard was you saying that socialism didn’t work. • I mean, I guess his basic premise is not a bad one – that religion is something our collective imaginations produced in Ye Olde Days to provide meaning and structure to existence so we don’t all just run around biting each other. I’m just not sure it’s true. Fantastic, it’s everything you expect from Peterson and more. We’re sticking with that. The 12 Rules for Life is a book by Jordan B. Peterson that touches on many topics including science, philosophy, psychology, religion, and politics. I do not think Corinthians says what you think it says. • Sacrifice is good and important – live meaningfully and it will protect you even from death. • I’m not totally buying your claims about Christianity’s social progressiveness vs oppressive paganism, Peterson. We don't even know what's better for you. παράδοση σε όλη την Ελλάδα με έως και δωρεάν μεταφορικά για παραγγελίες άνω των ... αντικαταβολή, πιστωτικές & χρεωστικές κάρτες, paypal, πληρωμή στο κατάστημα ή κατάθεση σε τραπεζικό λογαριασμό, με τσάντα, ευχετήρια κάρτα και κάρτα αλλαγής. • A fairly scary but accurate observation – when you become self aware, you are able to torment others because you see human vulnerability. Review. • Also, Dostoevsky and Nietzsche got a lot wrong. The impact will be low but it will be enacted on a greater number of people - orders of magnitude more than the first. • Hrm. Chapter 8; Jordan Peterson – 12 Rules of Life. Which you can’t do until you make yourself better due to his last chapter. • God, I’d have felt intelligent reading this stuff when I was 17. I am chastened already. ( Log Out /  I also agree that there was not much in the way of clinical examples and halfway through I put this down to this chapter being philosophical. These three points are where modern expression of Christianity are a bit off the mark in my view. He’s big on self-discipline and motivating yourself to give up partying and the like to study – it’s all very protestant work ethic. I am at a crossroads in my career. • Of course Peterson was a teenage socialist. • Now enter Jung, stage left, explaining why humans need religion. Somehow, I’ve only made it to Rule 7. Don’t lie about anything, ever. Read below for more details. Let’s begin. I am slightly out of breath after reading this chapter. How does one weight "helping a few and hurting none" with "hurting one to help so many more"? I liked JP's points on Christianity namely this "Firstly, devaluation of the significance of earthly life, as only the hereafter mattered." Fill in your details below or click an icon to log in: You are commenting using your WordPress.com account. Quote – ‘the act of making a ritual sacrifice to God was an early and sophisticated enactment of the idea of the usefulness of delay’. Eurgh. Information: https://twelverulesforlife.com/, Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/12-Rules-Life-Antidote-Chaos/dp/0345816021, Rule 1: Stand up straight with you shoulders back, Rule 2: Treat yourself like someone you are responsible for helping, Rule 3: Make friends with people who want the best for you, Rule 4: Compare yourself to who you were yesterday, not to who someone else is today, Rule 5: Do not let your children do anything that makes you dislike them, Rule 6: Set your house in perfect order before you criticise the world. I’m feeling guilty about being mean already. Or maybe lobsters would rule the world instead of us if they only had Jesus. • Work and delayed gratification are good and religion teaches us both these things. We will dedicate one chapter each week for in depth discussion. it was an okay chapter but it went off on a tangent that wasn't related to the chapter. I have always read that as more about man’s desperate need to delude himself that he can exert control over the uncontrollable. I see why Jordan Peterson likes him though. This is all going very Catholic. • Shush, George Orwell. Peterson basically builds a philosophy around the meaning of life being ending pointless suffering in society (the keyword being ”pointless”). I’m becoming concerned. That became the cornerstone of my belief. • Quote – ‘above all, don’t lie. ", to which his answer comprised 42 rules. Teach a man to fish, and you feed him for a lifetime". Late to the party, but that last section of the chapter has been the best section in the book thus far. • More bible and why Jesus was kick ass in his extreme asceticism. Jordan Peterson – 12 Rules for Life. Change ), You are commenting using your Google account. Shush. Rule 7 – pursue what is meaningful (not what is expedient). It's not clear to me why a morality needs to be invoked to prevent something that can't exist in any eminent way. εύκολη επιστροφή προϊόντων εντός 14 ημερών από την ημέρα που το παρέλαβες!